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oldbloke at 09:36pm on 08/08/2006
oldbloke at 09:36pm on 08/08/2006Seen elsewhere:
Well ****.
I have to tell this story on here because I am so ****ing pissed that I need to vent and let it all out. So here goes.
First let me say that my 13 year old nephew ****** is a troublemaker. He's already been arrested once, we've caught him with marijuana, and other stuff like that. He has stolen from all of us, but we thought that he was on the right track after we had sent him to a rehabilitation camp earlier in the summer.
On Thursday, me and my g/f decided to take a trip up to +++++++++++ to see some friends. I didn't take my laptop, as I wouldn't be playing any poker during our already busy weekend. I left it at the house, and I left it on so that my nieces and nephews could play some computer games or watch movies if they came over to the house.
Well we go off and have a fun weekend. Everything went great until yesterday morning when we were coming home. I went to fill up on gas, and my check card was declined. I didn't know why. I had approximately 8k in my account, and I was thoroughly perplexed.
Anyways, XXX paid for gas, we got home, and I went straight to the bank. Apparently, there was a $10,000 transaction from "IGM PAY". So my account was now $1400 in the hole. Fcuking Bank of America somehow let the transaction go through because over 50% of the funds were available, and there isn't an overdraft limit on my account. Great. For those of you that don't know, IGMPAY is PartyPoker's EFT Deposit system. I have used it several times in the past, as when I want to play $5/$10 NL. I play, then I cashout. So, my limit was up to $10,000 as I've never had an NSF transaction.
So, after I find this out, I go home and see that my balance is $2.32, which is what I had in there before all this. Great. I go to my account history and find out that my account was taken to a 100/200 game, and lasted all of TWENTY minutes. So I am steaming. I go to my parents, and ask them if they have had any viruses over the past few days on their comps, to which they said no. I also ran a full system check and found that my comp was clean. During this process, we remember that ****** and his 3 siblings came over with my sister (their mom) this weekend. ****** spent about 2 hours supposedly playing games in my room. My mom checked in on him once or twice, but found him just messing around on the comp, she didn't see any poker open. We figured that it had to be him.
I went over to his house and explained to my sister what happened. She was livid, to say the least. We found him at a friends house and ordered him to come home immediately.
When he walked in, you could tell that he knew that he'd been caught. He started into a big story about how sick he was and wanted to go right to bed, but we stopped him. When I asked him about it, he flatly denied it. Then, I threatened having him arrested. Then he says "If I tell you what happened, will you not be mad?" To which I said "No, I'm already mad."
He says that he was messing around playing free money on my account, and that he somehow got to the cashier and saw that he could deposit money instantly, just type in what he wanted. He said "Well, I figured I would deposit some, and make you some money, and then cashout and you wouldn't even recognize it."
So he admitted to it. My sister doesn't have $10k to just give to me, and although it won't break me at all (I still have money at the boat for the cash games I play), it is about 10% of my bankroll.
I figured that I might have a shot by emailing partypoker. What a dumb fool I was.
Anyways, I emailed partypoker (below) and this is what I said:
-------------------
Hello,
I am writing to let you know that a deposit was made on my account that was not authorized by me. On D-M-YY, someone gained access to my computer and my account information, and then proceeded to login and make a transaction using IGM Pay. The transaction went through and I am now $1400 in the hole. Can you guys help me?
????
-------------- Here is their response back ---------------------------------
Hello ????,
Unfortunately, we have no way to prove that this was an unauthorized transaction because it was made on your account from your IP address, from your bank account. Now, if the transaction had been denied then there would have been more we could help you with.
Good Luck!
Himadrish
- yeah cheers
--------------------------------------------
Anyways guys, sorry for the rant, but I had to vent. Long story short I learned to never leave my account information saved for autologin, and to never leave my computer around shady people.
And yes, yes, I know, BBFIDTS
Well ****.
I have to tell this story on here because I am so ****ing pissed that I need to vent and let it all out. So here goes.
First let me say that my 13 year old nephew ****** is a troublemaker. He's already been arrested once, we've caught him with marijuana, and other stuff like that. He has stolen from all of us, but we thought that he was on the right track after we had sent him to a rehabilitation camp earlier in the summer.
On Thursday, me and my g/f decided to take a trip up to +++++++++++ to see some friends. I didn't take my laptop, as I wouldn't be playing any poker during our already busy weekend. I left it at the house, and I left it on so that my nieces and nephews could play some computer games or watch movies if they came over to the house.
Well we go off and have a fun weekend. Everything went great until yesterday morning when we were coming home. I went to fill up on gas, and my check card was declined. I didn't know why. I had approximately 8k in my account, and I was thoroughly perplexed.
Anyways, XXX paid for gas, we got home, and I went straight to the bank. Apparently, there was a $10,000 transaction from "IGM PAY". So my account was now $1400 in the hole. Fcuking Bank of America somehow let the transaction go through because over 50% of the funds were available, and there isn't an overdraft limit on my account. Great. For those of you that don't know, IGMPAY is PartyPoker's EFT Deposit system. I have used it several times in the past, as when I want to play $5/$10 NL. I play, then I cashout. So, my limit was up to $10,000 as I've never had an NSF transaction.
So, after I find this out, I go home and see that my balance is $2.32, which is what I had in there before all this. Great. I go to my account history and find out that my account was taken to a 100/200 game, and lasted all of TWENTY minutes. So I am steaming. I go to my parents, and ask them if they have had any viruses over the past few days on their comps, to which they said no. I also ran a full system check and found that my comp was clean. During this process, we remember that ****** and his 3 siblings came over with my sister (their mom) this weekend. ****** spent about 2 hours supposedly playing games in my room. My mom checked in on him once or twice, but found him just messing around on the comp, she didn't see any poker open. We figured that it had to be him.
I went over to his house and explained to my sister what happened. She was livid, to say the least. We found him at a friends house and ordered him to come home immediately.
When he walked in, you could tell that he knew that he'd been caught. He started into a big story about how sick he was and wanted to go right to bed, but we stopped him. When I asked him about it, he flatly denied it. Then, I threatened having him arrested. Then he says "If I tell you what happened, will you not be mad?" To which I said "No, I'm already mad."
He says that he was messing around playing free money on my account, and that he somehow got to the cashier and saw that he could deposit money instantly, just type in what he wanted. He said "Well, I figured I would deposit some, and make you some money, and then cashout and you wouldn't even recognize it."
So he admitted to it. My sister doesn't have $10k to just give to me, and although it won't break me at all (I still have money at the boat for the cash games I play), it is about 10% of my bankroll.
I figured that I might have a shot by emailing partypoker. What a dumb fool I was.
Anyways, I emailed partypoker (below) and this is what I said:
-------------------
Hello,
I am writing to let you know that a deposit was made on my account that was not authorized by me. On D-M-YY, someone gained access to my computer and my account information, and then proceeded to login and make a transaction using IGM Pay. The transaction went through and I am now $1400 in the hole. Can you guys help me?
????
-------------- Here is their response back ---------------------------------
Hello ????,
Unfortunately, we have no way to prove that this was an unauthorized transaction because it was made on your account from your IP address, from your bank account. Now, if the transaction had been denied then there would have been more we could help you with.
Good Luck!
Himadrish
- yeah cheers
--------------------------------------------
Anyways guys, sorry for the rant, but I had to vent. Long story short I learned to never leave my account information saved for autologin, and to never leave my computer around shady people.
And yes, yes, I know, BBFIDTS
(no subject)
Are they going to inform the police? I really don't think he should be allowed to get away with it, because he'll expect to get away with things for the rest of his life. OTOH, that might be a worse solution in the US. I simply don't know.
Isn't it always the way that someone generous gets taken for a ride like that? I don't suppose he'll aallow anyone to use his laptop again. Just shows how essential it is to have a password if there are a lot of people with access to one's PC.
(no subject)
Accident waiting to happen otherwise - I bet we all have a few .doc files or .xls files we wouldn't want edited, or accidentally overwritten, even if nothing monetary happened. Keep seeing reports on the antivirus groups of messes machines get into when kids are allowed on them, too...
(no subject)
I have a lot of stuff on my PC that I would hate to have hootered up due to someone's well meaning interference, or even, come to think of it. malevolent interference. I know I should back everything up, but it's not always realistic to back up everything every day.
I can't believe a 13 year old, however moronic, didn't know exactly what he was doing and that it was wrong, wrong, wrong!
(no subject)
If he gets away with this with no very major consequences he'll end up in prison before he leaves his teens behind, sure as God made yada yada.
I'm not surprised the online poker people didn't play ball - I'll bet plenty of people lose money and then email a sob story "It wasn't me, it was my cat jumping on the keys".
Mel